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En la Sesión Ordinaria de este miércoles el diputado por Libres del Sur Carlos Omar Martínez,  mocionó como cuestión previa, el tratamiento sobre tablas del proyecto de Resolución 4051/17 de su autoría, por el que se pretende solicitar al Poder Ejecutivo Nacional “la renuncia inmediata de la Ministra de Seguridad, Patricia Bullrich debido a su ineficiente y cuestionado desempeño en las investigaciones por la desaparición forzada del ciudadano Santiago Maldonado ocurrida luego de la represión de Gendarmería en la comunidad mapuche Pu Lof de Cushamen Provincia de Chubut, el día 1 de agosto del corriente año”.

La iniciativa suscitó un extenso debate en el que participaron legisladores de todas las bancadas, luego del cual se pasó a la votación, en la que, faltando el apoyo del bloque opositor, no se consiguieron los dos tercios necesarios para la aprobación sobre tablas del proyecto, por lo que el mismo pasó a Comisiones para su tratamiento.

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“Es un tema preocupante a nivel nacional, sobre todo a raíz de las informaciones surgidas en las ultimas horas relativas a su desaparición física, que tenemos que asumir los legisladores una posición clara, no solo en el rechazo de lo ocurrido, de la represión en la provincia de Chubut, sino, además de  informaciones, que se han filtrado, de un organismo de seguridad nacional acerca de la participación de Gendarmería Nacional  en la desaparición de Santiago Maldonado, las que suenan cada vez más fuertes” planteó Martínez.

“En la conferencia de prensa que realizaron los familiares junto con el CELS el día de ayer, en  donde se habla de una actuación deplorable de la Ministra de Defensa Patricia Bullrich y el Ministro de Seguridad Pablo Noceti, que rayan el encubrimiento de la desaparización forzada, la conducta de la ministra quien sin ningún tipo de intención de investigar, su primera actitud fue defender a Gendarmería, negándose a reconocer la desaparición forzada, en  donde el protocolo de desaparición forzada indica que corresponde la separación del personal de seguridad que intervino en el operativo” indicó el legislador.

“Que una ministra de seguridad, del gobierno argentino, con los antecedentes nefastos y dolorosos, en materia de desaparición de personas en los ´70 y ´80, se niega a dar a conocer esta información ante la Comisión de Derechos Humanos de la Cámara de Diputados de la Nación, esto raya lo cercano a un delito penal, el de encubrimiento o incumplimiento de los deberes” analizó Martínez.

“Según manda la convención internacional, cuando se produce un hecho así, hay que apartar a los que intervinieron materialmente y al quien la condujo” del supuesto encubrimiento, el legislador destacó “encubrir es más grave que mentir, es una forma agravada de la mentira porque  naturalmente los ciudadanos confían en sus autoridades y esta  desconfianza quedó en la sociedad”.

De la iniciativa de su autoría, Martínez destacó que “con esta nos dirigirnos al Poder Ejecutivo Nacional, solicitando la renuncia de esta funcionaria. porque su accionar no solo es cuasi delictivo, sino que va en contra de todo lo que hemos logrado en los últimos años en la Argentina, como cultura del  respeto de los Derechos Humanos y en  nombre de esa historia, que tenemos como Legislatura provincial, y en nombre de esa investigación que hizo la Legislatura del Chaco, tenemos que decirlo”

Proponemos enviarlo a la Nación, al presidente Macri “para que sepa que los representantes de la provincia del Chaco le pedimos a él, que le solicite el apartamiento de una ministra, que deshonró su cargo, y nuestro posicionamiento, así como proponemos que les llegue a  los integrantes del Congreso de la Nación Argentina” detalló Carlos Martínez.

El radical Roy Nikisch cuestionó si “el diputado Carlos Martínez cuando la desaparición de Julio López habrá presentado un proyecto para pedir la renuncia de un Ministro a nivel nacional, sin ser lo mismo, es una desaparición  forzosa del gobierno peronista anterior”.

Su par del bloque Cambiemos Luis El Halli Obeid, sostuvo que “sin duda que es un tema que obviamente nos entristece a todos los argentinos, no hay distinción ni vale mirar para atrás ya que muchos hemos decidido mirar hacia adelante, lo que quiero dejar en claro es que el gobierno nacional está trabajando, colabora con la justicia, no prejuzga, porque en un estado democrático, jueces y fiscales tienen que tener todo el apoyo del gobierno nacional, no hay hipótesis de encubrimiento, se descarta que haya una decisión  política de cometer un crimen; por lo tanto digo que no hay dueños del dolor ni apoderados de los derechos, todos estamos doloridos y todos somos derechos a la hora de pedir por Santiago Maldonado”.

Carim Pechecoincidió en señalar “todos queremos que aparezca Santiago Maldonado, esto no se debate ni se discute, que en un estado democrático ocurran estas cosas, duele mucho y es como el caso, sin querer entrar con chicanas como el fiscal Nisman, que aparece muerto cuando iba a declarar contra la Presidenta, o lo que decía Nikisch de Julio López. Si está Gendarmería involucrada tendrán que ser separados los responsables, es algo elemental, que hagan lo que tengan que hacer porque el objetivo final es la aparición de Santiago Maldonado”.

“Pero el mensaje, montarse en una cuestión política no es bueno, no son mensajes buenos, esto altera la paz, y no vamos a terminar bien. ¿Quiénes somos nosotros para decirle al Presidente que saque un ministro?” sostuvo.

Raúl Acostaexpresó el acompañamiento del Bloque Concertación FORJA a la iniciativa del diputado Martínez: “el caso de Santiago Maldonado es grave, más para los que militamos con el radicalismo y con Alfonsín por el Nunca Más, en defensa de los derechos humanos, y pensábamos que esto no iba a ocurrir más” y sostuvo que “hubo una estrategia, una campaña de confusión, de pistas truchas, todos sabíamos lo que pasó, hay testigos, cámaras, es una desaparición forzada, hay testigos de que la Gendarmería se lo llevó, y pasó 1 mes para que se haga un peritaje, Gendarmería lavó las camionetas, hay filmaciones, y quisieron confundir con los medios dominantes que apoyan este proyecto político”.

“Cuando se tocan los DDHH tenemos que ponernos codo a codo con su defensa –remarcó- no tiene nada que ver con la desaparición de López, el suicidio de Nisman, acá hay una fuerza del Estado, una represión a los mapuches que defendían sus tierras. La ministra Bullrich que se puso el traje de Gendarmería, el Subsecretario que pasó por ahí y tomó mate con los gendarmes, el Subsecretario que dirigió el operativo de represión, el juez que ordenó el desalojo, es una vergüenza, la ministra tiene que dar un paso al costado” remarcó.

La justicialista Celeste Segoviacuestionó: “no se si hay mala fe o ignorancia de parte de diputados que tienen historia en materia de defensa de DHHH a través de un partido centenario, con Alfonsín que marcó un rumbo y camino en juzgamiento en delitos de lesa humanidad, en condenas a genocidas poniendo a la Argentina en los primeros lugares en materia de DDHH y de memoria, verdad y justicia. Quiero creer que confundir los términos desaparición con desaparición forzada, en los términos de la convención de DDHH, y la tradición que tenemos en materia de DDHH como argentinos, y como miembros militantes de partidos democráticos, quiero creer que es ignorancia y no mala fe”.

“La desaparición forzada implica siempre intervención del Estado, es un asunto político, una desaparición es un hecho policial, es de muy mala fe, hacer una contabilidad con Nisman o Julio López, hay un ciudadano que desapareció y hay una responsabilidad directa y legal, de Mauricio Macri y su ministra de Seguridad, porque nos tienen que garantizar seguridad a todos los argentinos  por igual, por habitar este suelo argentino, y una responsabilidad indirecta, porque las fuerzas del Estado se creen con libertad de llevarse a un ciudadano” afirmó.

El diputado Daniel Trabalónexpresó el acompañamiento del bloque Frente Grande a la iniciativa  de resolución presentada por Carlos Martínez, y sostuvo: “entendemos que el caso de Santiago Maldonado es la continuidad agravada del fallo de la corte del 2×1, continuidad agravada de una definición política que nosotros rechazamos y repudiamos, hay una definición política que tenemos que dar, ahora la división que se da, no es entre kirchnerista o no, sino entre los sectores democráticos y antidemocráticos”.

“Duele e indigna cuando se trae el caso de Julio López –remarcó- en el 2003 Néstor Kirchner derogó las leyes de impunidad – obediencia debida y punto final – en el 2006 López participa en los juicios contra  Etchecolaz en ese contexto, a partir de una decisión del estado nacional de llevar a los genocidas a los banquillos, y un 18 de septiembre es desaparecido, me indigna que se traigan esos casos para esconder responsabilidades, la memoria de Julio López no merece esto. Es política del gobierno nacional esconder responsabilidad, y tratar de embarrar la cancha trayendo a Julio López, un compañero que fue a dar testimonio contra los genocidas, no se lo vamos a permitir” replicó.

Desde el interbloque Cambiemos Livio Gutiérrez, puso de relieve que “ se ha escuchado mucho del tema y nos queda claro que es una desaparición y qué es una desaparición forzada” pero a nivel provincial, analizó “sabemos que Nievas no tiene nada que ver con la desaparición de Maira Benítez, sí, hubo un desalojo de una ruta, hubo gente involucrada y faltaba alguien, lo normal es apartar a los involucrados, también al juez, y trabajarlo en el ámbito de la justicia, pero no pedimos renuncias” consideró Gutiérrez.

“Es como si pidiéramos renuncia de Capitanich, cuando los policías provinciales mataran a Obregón, sabemos que tiene que ver con una cuestión particular, que terminó con la vida de Obregón, pero la renuncia se pide cuando está claro y determinado los responsables” explicó en cuanto el procedimiento el legislador radical.

Su par de bancada Hugo Domínguez, manifestó “hay un común denominador, de todos los diputados presentes, y es que a todos nos conmueve una desaparición, el no saber dónde está Maldonado” y en este sentido aclaró que “nos dicen que los conceptos de memoria, verdad y justicia tienen que florecer más fuerte porque desapareció Maldonado, y nos impiden tener memoria con López diciéndonos que  no lo podemos mencionar, porque la memoria no es para él,  en el caso Nisman lo mismo, nos dicen que tampoco lo podemos mencionar, que fue un suicidio, no lo podemos hablar” puntualizó el legislador recriminando.

El legislador adelantando su postura consideró “por supuesto que vamos a hablar de Maldonado y de los pueblos originarios, pero acompañamos estas resoluciones y le volvemos a decir que vamos a acompañar una resolución en donde exijamos la aparición con vida del ciudadano Santiago Maldonado,  pongan el acento en esto”

El diputado del PJ Rubén Guillón, recordó “dentro de este planteamiento de excesos de la fuerza de seguridad, de las responsabilidades políticas, de acusaciones un hecho que le duele a mi pueblo General San Martín, hoy 6 de septiembre se recuerda que en 1933 la fuerza policial acribillaba a un conjunto de tobas y mocovíes, que viniendo de Quitilipi intentaban conseguir alimentos, ropas y tierra; hablamos de mapuches, mocovíes, lucha de tierras, y la historia se repite, parece que son situaciones que se van repitiendo cada tanto”.

“No importa que ideología tenía Maldonado, no importa en qué trabajaba, no tenemos derecho de saber dónde está? A Maldonado no lo tragó la tierra, a Maldonado lo desaparecieron. Y a partir de esta situación y verdad irrefutable es que el Poder Judicial cambia la carátula a desaparición forzada, en el marco de una participación excesiva de miembros de una fuerza de seguridad. Es bueno decir que por el momento no existe un plan sistemático de desaparición de personas, pero si intentos de revivir las mismas metodologías de los ´70” sostuvo.

En tanto su par Roberto Bracone hizo una valoración en cuanto al debate de la cuestión y manifestó “estamos perdiendo el tiempo, ya que  las 24 horas al día en todos los medios nacionales se habla de Santiago Maldonado, medios que nos ignoran siempre, y nosotros trabajamos en función de nuestra provincia del Chaco y sin embargo seguimos discutiendo de lo que la gente está cansada de escuchar, pero  me duele la desaparición de Maldonado” remarcó Bracone tras lo cual hizo una valoración histórica y defensa del peronismo.

El diputado Sergio Vallejos optó por “marcar mi posición política personal, yo soy radical, no soy kirchnerista ni de Cambiemos, hablamos de temas importantes que tienen que ver con los DDHH, puede haber intencionalidad política en algunos sectores, que era la preocupación del diputado Peche, y no se si voy a acompañar el texto del PR porque entiendo que el Presidente Macri está sentado allí porque lo votó la gente, pero sí quiero decir que el mejor favor que puede hacer Bullrich es renunciar ya, porque flaco favor le hace a la democracia y al presidente Macri”.

El diputado justicialista Hugo Sager cerró el debate observando que “a lo largo de toda esta tarde se han escuchado diversas opiniones fundadas a favor o en contra de la propuesta de un diputado traducida en una resolución que debiera ser apoyada por el conjunto de los que integramos esta Cámara, de la misma manera que cuando se modificó el criterio de 2×1 otorgando a un genocida un trato particular y la sociedad salió masivamente independientemente de los partidos políticos y quedó internalizado en la sociedad argentina que ante situaciones de esta naturaleza la movilización popular y la expresión de la gente tiene que decirle a los funcionarios que están equivocados”.

“La sociedad tiene que reaccionar, y nosotros somos representantes de la sociedad, esta es la voz del conjunto de la sociedad del Chaco, esta no es cuestión partidaria ni de sectores, sino de los argentinos y chaqueños, por las lecciones que nos dio la vida democrática y los dolores de los desaparecidos hoy tendríamos que estar apoyando todos una resolución de estas características, debe ser un pronunciamiento de toda la legislatura del Chaco porque esta legislatura ha sido la primera en la defensa de los DDHH y hoy no podemos quedarnos atrás” afirmó.

Finalmente el proyecto en debate pasó a la Comisión ya que no obtuvo los dos tercios necesarios para su tratamiento sobre tablas.

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